Criteria for a Theory of Everything

by Domenic 2007-11-08T22:55:00

Over at Backreaction, Sabine has given a nice overview of Garrett Lisi's new theory of everything. I, for one, am very impressed, and have been spreading the news among my friends. Of course, it's pretty far beyond my capabilities to understand the math involved, but as far as I can tell it has several very nice features. Mainly, the fact that things fit so well into the structure of E8, with most of everything else falling out of this, is very nice.

However, as Sabine mentions, there are a few missing things. And this got me thinking: what would I really want to have, from a theory of "everything"? Perhaps this is moving beyond the conventional definition as "something that unifies gravity and the Standard Model under one set of laws," but ultimately, we do want to have an explanation for everything in one theory. What do I mean, exactly? Well, I think instead of rambling on about general ideas, I'd better start giving some examples.

Cosmological Mysteries

Some of the most mysterious data in modern physics are present in cosmology. And, given the fact that accelerator technology is starting to have increasingly low return-on-investment (imagine if all the LHC finds is the Higgs? Or worse, if it doesn't even find that?), this makes sense. So what kind of cosmological mysteries would we like a theory of everything to explain?

  • Dark Matter. Although I've been convinced that dark matter is, in fact, matter—and not a modification of our theories of gravity—but this still doesn't explain exactly what dark matter is. There are certainly many possibilities, but it would be nice if our TOE had some candidate particle (or some such) that we could point to and say "ahah! That perfectly fits all of our dark matter data!"
  • Dark Energy. Even worse than dark matter is dark energy, as it quite plausible could be a modification of our theories. That is, while we can try to fit the observed rate of the expansion of the universe into existing theories, via a cosmological constant or some kind of quintessence field, there isn't a compelling reason to say that it should fit into such a framework. Any natural explanation for dark energy—that is, a non-fine–tuned one—would be a welcome feature of any TOE, whether it comes in the form of a conventional (but not fine-tuned) cosmological constant, or in another form entirely.
  • Large-Scale Structure. Most graphically, where do we get that huge hole in the universe? And similarly, what's with the axis of evil? There is increasing evidence that our universe's large-scale structure has a number of strange properties that are difficult (impossible?) to explain with conventional models. Of course, such an explanation would be closely tied to our next cosmological mystery…
  • Creation and Evolution. The Big Bang hypothesis, along with its counterpart of inflation, are both slightly unsatisfactory. While they certainly have some explanatory power (challenged by the above results, perhaps, but in the end remarkably successful), at the same time they raise a lot of questions. The Big Bang itself is a singularity, which we cannot describe with our current physics: perhaps a TOE can? And inflation is simply missing a mechanism—hopefully we can get one of those out of our hypothetical TOE. Alternately, scrapping inflation and replacing it with something different is a possibility; the Big Bang is probably here to stay, however.

Black Holes

Black holes, of course, are the ultimate frontier for quantum gravity. Predicted by general relativity, they cannot comfortably be accommodated by quantum field theory, although we can kinda-sorta mash them together to get neat stuff like Hawking radiation. Here are some black hole-related things that a good TOE should resolve:

  • No Singularity. The center of a black hole contains (according to general relativity) all of the object's mass, but within zero volume. Thus infinite density and spacetime curvature. And everything breaks when you throw infinities at it. So, if we want a theory to describe the universe, it can't break down at the center of black holes!
  • Zero Volume, Really? If spacetime is quantized, in any meaningful sense, you just can't have a zero-volume object. So what happens when these things just keep gravitating toward each other? Where does it end, and why, and how?
  • Hawking Radiation. This process is unobserved and on somewhat shaky ground, in that it arises from merging quantum field theory and general relativity. While it's quite conceivable that such a process is explicable in terms of interactions between gravitons and virtual particle pairs, it's also possible that our TOE will have something else to say about the matter.
  • Information Loss. Closely tied to the issue of the no hair theorem and Hawking radiation, there is the possibility of black holes being able to destroy information, something which none of our current physical theories allow (the quantum measurement problem notwithstanding). A TOE should either exclude this possibility, or explain why black holes are special in this respect. Hawking claims to have solved this by letting the information be slowly emitted via Hawking radiation, but apparently not everyone is satisfied with this solution.
  • Thermodynamics and the Holographic Principle. The issues regarding black holes, entropy, temperature, and the holographic principle are all mixed up as of now. It's a mess of classical statistical mechanics grafted onto classical general relativity with a bit of quantum-mechanical trickery thrown in to get thermal radiation (and thus "temperature"). And once we start characterizing a black hole by its entropy, we get interesting connections to the holographic principle, but it's not entirely clear what role the holographic principle plays in our hypothetical TOE anyway. A good TOE should allow us to get a complete explanation for these connections entirely within itself.

Some Foundational Issues

There are some pretty important issues that it seems possible a TOE could entirely skip, in the same way current approaches do. These affect the very foundations of what our theory means, but of course a "shut up and calculate" approach is usually available to bypass them. I suppose, due to the availability of such an approach, these issues won't be on everyone's TOE wish list; however, me and some others do insist on resolving them. One good paper that sums up most of these is Isham's "Prima Facie Questions in Quantum Gravity."

  • The Problem of Time. One of the more fascinating papers I've been reading recently spells out what is called "the problem of time" in quantum gravity. Mainly, it boils down to the fact that in general relativity time is completely relational, arising only from the relations that events have to each other. To put this more graphically, if everything in the universe stopped moving right now—if events stopped happening—then there would be no time. However, in quantum theory, time is a parameter that we need to use to evolve our dynamical system, according to our Schrödinger/Klein-Gordon/Dirac equation. We need time as a fundamental background in which to draw our Feynman diagrams. Time isn't an "observable"—in fact, you can show that any real clock will always have a nonzero probability of being observed as running backward. These are two completely different views of time, both ontologically and mathematically. A good TOE needs to resolve them. (Googling around found me this paper, which I haven't read but seems like it would be a good introduction to the idea.)
  • The Measurement Problem. The mother of all foundational problems is the quantum measurement problem. I'm sure I'll talk more about this in a future blog post, but let's just say that you'd better resolve this or else people will be bickering about your theory for the next 80 years or so, as has happened with quantum theory.
  • Relational vs. Absolute. Best posed as a vivid series of questions. For example: if there were only one object in the universe, could you measure it's motion, or size? If there were only two objects in the universe, could you measure how far away from each other they were? If all objects (and interactions) in the universe "slowed down" by the same, constant factor, would this affect anything? General relativity answers all of these with a "no," a property which we often call diffeomorphism invariance or background-independence. Quantum field theory, however, relies on an absolute background spacetime in which to set the stage of our grand saga, and let the participants evolve. Can we describe the universe accurately without diffeomorphism invariance? It's very pretty, but then again, so is Lorentz invariance, and we can "fake" that in Bohmian hidden variable theories to the extent of matching observation without integrating it into our theory's fundamental structure. What will our TOE choose? Is there a "right" choice?
  • What's Really Going on Down There? Ultimately, we'd like to be able to package a nice picture of our universe into some great graphics that can go on TV. You know, have some nice researcher go on PBS and broadcast a multi-part special explaining what we think is happening. But this time it should be, well, supported by experiment. Anyway, the point remains: can we talk about what's happening in our universe, or do we just get to talk about group representations and symmetry transformations? A principle like "everything is made out of vibrating strings, and each way of vibrating gives you a new particle" is pretty good; I can, in some sense, "picture" that universe. On a different level, a Bohmian hidden-variables model tells me exactly what's happening, without any of the messy quantum randomness and mysterious measurement processes. It would be nice if our TOE gave us such a picture.

Meta-Universe and Meta-Theory Questions

As discussed previously, it would certainly be nice if our ultimate TOE emerged "naturally," allowing no other possibilities than the one we observe. This can be taken to various levels of severity, so we'll start from the very basic and end with the most fundamental.

  • Constants of Nature. It almost goes without saying that we would like to avoid any "input parameters" to our theory, avoiding the Standard Model's 26 fundamental constants. This is, perhaps, one of the most attractive features of Garrett's theory; as far as I can tell, it all arises from the structure of E8.
  • 4 Forces. Why four? Why are they unified in certain ways, but not others? Of course we have the famous hierarchy problem to contend with here, but I think more fundamentally is the question that we might lose track of in the midst of all this unifying: why are we starting with these particular forces to unify, anyway? I suppose this might not be too difficult to answer, in the end: say we have this perfectly-described unified force at high energies; then it simply becomes a matter of predicting how that force breaks apart at lower energies.
  • 3 Generations. Why are there three generations of particles, and not some other number? Again, Garrett's theory answers this nicely, tying it to the structure of E8. One might then ask, "why E8?" But I'll leave that for a few bullet points down.
  • 3+1 Spacetime. While there are plenty of anthropic arguments for 3+1 space/time dimensions, this isn't very satisfying for a number of reasons. One of the most obvious is that an arbitrary number of dimensions can be fit in, "string theory style," by requiring them by "curled up" to the extent of having no visible effects. (Does this work for time too?) More generally, there's no reason to believe that physics itself could not exist in any other dimensionality (the existence of human beings aside); some sort of selection principle as to why 3+1 is "best" would be a great feature for a TOE.
  • Where Do We Get Those Equations From? One of Sabine's most prominent complaints about Garrett's theory was that he needed to make many assumptions to pick out the right action that would give the desired equations of motion. And in general, many equations in physics are necessarily derived from empirical data, and not from first principles. Ideally, our TOE should leave us no choice in the equations it contains, just as it (ideally) leaves us no choice in the constants of nature.
  • Why These Fundamental Principles? Whether the fundamental principles turn out to be gauge invariance, diffeomorphism invariance, certain decompositions into irreducible representations over a given group, or even just the plain-old action principle, it would be nice if there were a way to say "it must be this way!" instead of "our observed universe maps very well onto a theory satisfying these fundamental principles." As you can tell, we've reached the end of the list, where we start getting more demanding than usual.

To Conclude

Of course, it's pretty easy to sit back and say "hah, all you working theorists, give me a theory that satisfies all these!" But I didn't mean this post as a list of demands; more as a solidification of my thoughts on the question, "After we have a TOE, what is there left to do?" And the answer is, "investigate all these issues."

I think it's a pretty interesting list. If you have any additions, be sure to leave a comment with them; I might update it if I agree with you, or we could get into an interesting debate as to whether it's really important.

P.S.: Does anyone pronounce "TOE" as "toe"? Like, the thing you have ten of, on your feet? Because that would be really weird.

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2007-11-09T03:17:29

island

I'm going to comment this thread to death... later, after I wake up...

2007-11-09T09:19:12

island

Does anyone pronounce "TOE" as "toe"? Like, the thing you have ten of, on your feet? Because that would be really weird.

I do, but I think that you write it with a little "o", "ToE", whereas the theory of evolution is the big-O TOE. But what happens when the TOE *IS* the ToE... is the bigger question... ?

Dark Matter. Although I've been convinced that dark matter is, in fact, matter—and not a modification of our theories of gravity—but this still doesn't explain exactly what dark matter is. There are certainly many possibilities, but it would be nice if our TOE had some candidate particle (or some such) that we could point to and say "ahah! That perfectly fits all of our dark matter data!"

Not quite a particle yet, the theory that I put forth on Dorigo's blog indicates that dark matter is the rarefied mass energy of the vacuum that is being gravitationally condensed into weak tangibility.

Dark Energy. Even worse than dark matter is dark energy, as it quite plausible could be a modification of our theories. That is, while we can try to fit the observed rate of the expansion of the universe into existing theories, via a cosmological constant or some kind of quintessence field, there isn't a compelling reason to say that it should fit into such a framework. Any natural explanation for dark energy—that is, a non-fine–tuned one—would be a welcome feature of any TOE, whether it comes in the form of a conventional (but not fine-tuned) cosmological constant, or in another form entirely.

blog.domenicdenicola.com/…/…um-Field-Theory.aspx

Large-Scale Structure. Most graphically, where do we get that huge hole in the universe? And similarly, what's with the axis of evil? There is increasing evidence that our universe's large-scale structure has a number of strange properties that are difficult (impossible?) to explain with conventional models. Of course, such an explanation would be closely tied to our next cosmological mystery…

Ah, the problem here is just dogma, because these anomalies are well-explained by the goldilocks enigma. The problem is that "conventional models" don't take the anthropic physics into account in context with a true structure/cosmological principle, rather, the AP is only given "weak" recognition in context with the "landscape", as a selection efffect.

Creation and Evolution. The Big Bang hypothesis, along with its counterpart of inflation, are both slightly unsatisfactory. While they certainly have some explanatory power (challenged by the above results, perhaps, but in the end remarkably successful), at the same time they raise a lot of questions. The Big Bang itself is a singularity, which we cannot describe with our current physics: perhaps a TOE can? And inflation is simply missing a mechanism—hopefully we can get one of those out of our hypothetical TOE. Alternately, scrapping inflation and replacing it with something different is a possibility; the Big Bang is probably here to stay, however.

Singularity, my butt... www.lns.cornell.edu/spr/2006-02/msg0073320.html Read all the way to the bottom.

While I'm dubious that this truly has as many interesting consequences as Ryals claims

You wanna bet?... or do you actually want to contribute a meaningful theory of everything to science?... because I have given you the key, but I never will be able to do it all without a lot of help.

2007-11-09T17:58:21

Domenic

Not quite a particle yet, the theory that I put forth on Dorigo's blog indicates that dark matter is the rarefied mass energy of the vacuum that is being gravitationally condensed into weak tangibility.

OK, but can you fit this with Bullet Cluster data? That is, can you reasonably explain why the rarefied, condensed mass energy would cluster in one place, attracted to itself, separate from normal matter? To the extent of creating 20-odd percent of the universe's mass?

Ah, the problem here is just dogma, because these anomalies are well-explained by the goldilocks enigma. The problem is that "conventional models" don't take the anthropic physics into account in context with a true structure/cosmological principle, rather, the AP is only given "weak" recognition in context with the "landscape", as a selection efffect.

Yeah, this is a slightly more acceptable application of anthropic arguments than landscape scenarios, but it's still not pretty. And as this post is about my ideal TOE, it would be nice if we didn't need any such anthropic ideas.

From your linked post:

Increasing tension between the vacuum and ordinary matter leads to a prediction that the integrity of the forces that bind this finite structure will surely eventually be compromised by this process and we will have another big bang.

OK, that might sound qualitatively decent, but what's going on with the math? How do you quantify "eventually be compromised"? (What forces are doing the binding of what object, for that matter?) How do you justify calling such a "compromise" event a Big Bang?

because I have given you the key, but I never will be able to do it all without a lot of help.

Well, I'm not really the person to be asking, given my relative lack of education. But I'll keep it in my memory banks as I play with general relativity and quantum field theory over the years to come, and see if I can make it rigorous once I get to the point where I know enough math. We'll see if these qualitative ideas, which sound good, end up being supported by the math. Don't hold your breath waiting for me though ;).

Yousuf ca
2007-11-27T19:31:50

Yousuf

I'm somewhat agnostic on the MOND vs. Dark Matter debate. Lee Smolin's book the Trouble With Physics seems to imply a very fascinating correlation between Cosmological Constant and MOND's minimal acceleration constant (a_0) is directly related to the radius of Cosmological Constant(R) and the speed of light (c) squared. Specifically that c^2/R is equal to MOND's a_0; a_0 was originally measured just by observation, not derived from theory. It was a completely unexpected result as no one expected anything working at the scale of a puny little galaxy would have any effect on something working at the scale of the whole universe, but there it was. I'm sure that MOND's Relativistic successor theories (like TeVeS or MOG) make use of the same a_0 constant of the original MOND. It indicates that what we observe separately as Dark Matter and Dark Energy may be two aspects of the same phenomenon.

BTW, I know that Dark Matter proponents are very excited by the Bullet Cluster, but you don't hear too much of the opposing example, known as Abell 520 cluster. Abell 520 seems to show Dark Matter in places where there is neither intergalactic gas, nor galaxies.

2007-11-27T23:32:07

Domenic

Hmm, I didn't know about the Abell 520 cluster! Thanks for letting me know; that does provide a bit of a counterbalance, hmm. I would also call myself agnostic in the debate, which is why I was swayed by Sean's argument: it made a lot of sense.

I just re-read that section of The Trouble with Physics, and I think what I'd most like to add to your comment is that the c^2/R ratio could fit in to dark matter theories as well as MOND ones. I think we can safely say that either it's coincidence, or it's hinting at some kind of connection between the sets of data which we currently claim stem from dark matter and dark energy. I'm not really sure if it would help tilt the balance toward any one explanation, however.

Mostly, though, we know that our current theory of gravity isn't complete. So this is going to be fixed by a TOE; the hope is that whatever the fix is, an explanation for these dark x phenomena falls out with it. Maybe it'll be sparticles or E8 particles, or maybe it'll be a modification of gravitation (MOND-like or not)... I'm not sure we can use the data to guide our theories very much, however, since the data isn't clear on exactly what it's saying yet.

Yousuf ca
2007-11-29T23:10:45

Yousuf

Hmm, I didn't know about the Abell 520 cluster! Thanks for letting me know; that does provide a bit of a counterbalance, hmm. I would also call myself agnostic in the debate, which is why I was swayed by Sean's argument: it made a lot of sense.

Another mystery that I see mentioned about Dark Matter is how DM seems to be dominant in smaller galaxies, but almost non-existent in massive galaxies. I've seen mention of huge ellipticals being almost free of DM, while on the other end of the sprectrum you are now hearing about super-sub-dwarf-midget galaxies with almost no stars in them but tons of DM. What's the deal with that?

I just re-read that section of The Trouble with Physics, and I think what I'd most like to add to your comment is that the c^2/R ratio could fit in to dark matter theories as well as MOND ones. I think we can safely say that either it's coincidence, or it's hinting at some kind of connection between the sets of data which we currently claim stem from dark matter and dark energy. I'm not really sure if it would help tilt the balance toward any one explanation, however.

Yeah, I know what you mean. When I initially heard about this surprising correlation, I initially thought it must be a confirmation about modified gravity. But then later I figured it could just as easily be representing the vacuum energy converting itself into DM via Einstein's energy and mass relationship. However, why is it turning itself into dark matter rather than ordinary matter? I guess these all have to be explained.

Mostly, though, we know that our current theory of gravity isn't complete. So this is going to be fixed by a TOE; the hope is that whatever the fix is, an explanation for these dark x phenomena falls out with it. Maybe it'll be sparticles or E_8 particles, or maybe it'll be a modification of gravitation (MOND-like or not)... I'm not sure we can use the data to guide our theories very much, however, since the data isn't clear on exactly what it's saying yet.

I have my doubts that E_8 will explain Dark Matter/Energy by itself. Seems like it's only about microscopic effects, just like most other quantum field theories. He seems to want to combine E_8 into Loop Quantum Gravity to show the big effects.

I also think that even if E_8 with LQG turns to be true, and we have ourselves our first-ever actual ToE, it may only be a ToE within a certain energy range, and it may lead to even higher ToE's in higher energy ranges.

Yousuf ca
2007-12-02T22:46:26

Yousuf

BTW, looks like not all String theorists are hostile towards E8, some are seeing some possible applications on their side of the fence.

U DUALITY: Garrett Lisi's Theory of Everything. uduality.blogspot.com/…/…eory-of-everything.html

2007-12-03T10:02:12

Domenic

I have my doubts that E_8 will explain Dark Matter/Energy by itself. Seems like it's only about microscopic effects, just like most other quantum field theories. He seems to want to combine E_8 into Loop Quantum Gravity to show the big effects.

I don't know. It has the potential to give up to 20 new particles, and I see no reason why they couldn't be the desired WIMPs that are our best guess for dark matter. Your point definitely applies for dark energy, however.

Good to know about the potential string theory (or at least, supergravity) connection. I mean, both string theory and LQG have made interesting progress and probably contain hints toward truth, so it stands to reason that if an eventual E8-theory is true, the final form might combine elements from both research programs.

Yousuf ca
2007-12-05T21:32:11

Yousuf

I don't know. It has the potential to give up to 20 new particles, and I see no reason why they couldn't be the desired WIMPs that are our best guess for dark matter. Your point definitely applies for dark energy, however.

A random thought that just entered my mind a few minutes back was what if Dark Energy and Dark Matter were respectively really aspects of the Weak and Strong Nuclear forces acting out on the cosmic scale? They kind of act the same. The Dark Matter sort of acts like the Strong force: keeps the outer edges of a galaxy from falling off, but seems to mysteriously disappear the closer you get to the centre of the galaxy. And then the Dark Energy sort of acts like the Weak force: it is limp-wristed against the Strong at close distances, but at far distances it just dominates all over the Strong.

We've heard those theories about what if our Universe were just an atom within a larger Universe? Then if it's like an atom (or maybe more like a molecule), then why not have the same nuclear forces acting on it from the larger universe? That's just my crackpot theory, maybe somebody could put numbers to it and prove it right or wrong?

Anyways, came across some interesting Dark Matter related articles on Space.com today. One is a theory about how the first stars were Dark Matter-bloated behemoths that were invisible, and powered by Dark Matter reactions rather than thermonuclear. Can't figure out they figured out how Dark Matter reactions worked, when nobody really knows what it is yet. Smile

SPACE.com -- First Stars Were Huge and Dark

www.space.com/…/071203-dark-stars.html

The other one is about what I was just talking about up above: why does there seem to be less Dark Matter the closer you get centre of the galaxy? I came up with my Strong force analogy, but these guys think that Dark Matter is just pushed towards the outer edges by stellar wind sloshing.

SPACE.com -- Invisible Matter Loses Cosmic Battle

www.space.com/…/071203-mm-dark-galaxies.html

And another thing, to bring this back to Lisi's E8 theory. Jacques Distler, a String Theory guy, found an error Lisi's groupings, which Lisi has agreed with, and Lisi is now making a correction to his paper. However, Distler does seem to be quite an a*hole about it all though.

A Little Group Theory ... | Musings

golem.ph.utexas.edu/…/001505.html#c013259

Yousuf ca
2008-02-11T19:05:44

Yousuf

Just thought I'd update a discussion we had a few months ago. There's a new theory out about what Dark Matter and Energy are. It seems to be a version of the old Ether.

SPACE.com -- New Cosmic Theory Unites Dark Forces

www.space.com/…/080211-mm-dark-unification.html

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